Jacobs Thread

Hey Guys

I think a lot of people are assuming Locke was not special and was Long con'd by the guy who wanted to kill Jacob--and thats it

Well thats not it. The Monster was long con'd by Jacob. It models, in way Christs death.

The Devil con'd the people into destroying the one that would save them(the same answer to the shadow of the statue question). However, before time began, it was always the plan that Christ would die. The Devil believed that killing Christ would prevent him from saving mankind--BUT it was the very act that saved them.

Moses did the same thing. Pharoah ordering the death of every child to prevent the Deliverer from coming-- caused his mother to send that very Deliverer(Moses) down the river into Pharoah's own palace.

Jacob was weaving a thread. He states it started very long ago. He knew he was talking to the Monster. He is hinting his plan pre dates the Monsters. Jacob has been mortal a long long time. He wanted out. He had every chance to placate Ben--yet he invited death by his remarks and did Not defend himself. Jacob is now more than he was.

It is now possible to see where this all started.

Jacob believes Men can achieve progress in their nature. The Monster does not because he is evil. Jacob brings select people to the island to mold them but continues to fail because the monster corrupts(think about the French expedition sickness).

The Idea that Locke is not special comes from the shallow notion of magic and superpowers. When the real special attribute is sacrifice. Lost is a big story and some people can only fit half of it in their minds. Their missing the fact that the other half is Jacob wanted them to return to the island-- and to do that --Locke had to die. Locke was willing to give his life. Thats how he is special and thats how Charlie was special.

When the Monster says, "you have no idea what I had to go through" to get in a position to kill Jacob--he doesnt seem to know that this is all by Jacobs design. Jacob is the one who watched over these people when they were young. Jacob is the one who enlisted Ilana to put Sayid on the plane, discover Lockes body, and urge Hurley to return.

Yes, the Monster, who was pretending to be speaking for Jacob AS Christian, nudged Jack to want to return---but thats what Jacob wanted anyway.

Anyway, I said last week that there were decent clues that Locke was in the crate. The clues being "Dead is Dead", "out of body experience", Richard not knowing what was going on, saying Locke was different, and Locke convieniently disappearing when Ben was judged. Essentially, it was the monster telling Ben to listen to the monster.

The Monster told Locke to move the Island. The monster has Claire. The Monster is the enemy that Jacob and the losties must destroy.

I think Next season begins with them all on 815 and then it crashes into the trench(with Lapedius driving). This is just to compete that cycle and put fear into the audiences mind. I think because Jacob is now more powerful he is able to bring the remaining characters to the present--thats what he meant by "They are coming". I still believe that the original timeline is the plane crashing into the trench. They are all suppose to be dead--thats why Jacob feels he has the right to play with their lives--because they owe him.

Locke Box

I wrote here that because Star Trek NG's finale is Damons favorite episode, in which a future event coupled with a past event causes, well, an incident--that the box contains another bomb that will brought to the Well(shadow of the statue) and blown up--and it will be filmed simultaneously with the past bomb by Jack.

This would mean the incident is not preventable from the Past because it was actually caused by the group from flight 316. An event that flashed back through time to cause the anomaly

This still seems to be most likely.

However, the writers made a big point of suggesting Locke is different in this episode. Now, they may have reinforcing the point that Ben and Richard dont actually know anything. This was slammed home when it was revealed that it was Locke himself who told richard that he must die--and that order actually came from Christian. So the "you look different" may be just a way to show that richard didnt know John died.

But what a twist it would be if John finds his body and then questions who he is really is. The line that really got me thinking was "This must be a real out of body experience" by Ben coupled with the intro where Ben says dead is dead--you dont come back from that.. The clues are there---but it may be a fake just to create speculation though.

Anyway prepare for 815 to crash into the trench, juliet and miles to die, and the entire timeline to get wiped for those in 1977 because it seems to me the most logical end to this seasons story line. Which is Jack's plan always backfires